Philomeen |
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| Location | Grymforge |
| Act | Act 1 & Act 3 |
| Quests | Avenge the Ironhands Deal with the Gnomes Deliver Nere's Head Free True Soul Nere Save the Grymforge Gnomes |
Philomeen is an NPC in Baldur's Gate 3. Philomeen can be found at Grymforge. She is a Deep Gnome that can cast Spells and is determined to free her people. There is a massive amount of NPCs in Baldur's Gate 3, and their ideals, needs and way of living are strictly related to the actions they perform during the course of the game. Their attitude towards you and your party may be affected by the deeds and decisions you and your party taken on.
BG3 Philomeen Information:
- Philomeen is a Deep Gnome and has escaped from the Duergar with a Runepowder Barrel. She is tired of the abuse of the Duergar to her people, and wants to change things up for them.
Where to find Philomeen in Baldur's Gate 3
Philomeen can be found at:
Act 1
Act 3
- Angleiron's Cellar if Philomeen scapes during Act 1
Philomeen BG3 Quests
- Avenge the Ironhands
- Deal with the Gnomes
- Deliver Nere's Head
- Free True Soul Nere
- Save the Grymforge Gnomes
Baldur's Gate 3 Philomeen Dialogue Options
During Find Explosives, you have to find Philomeen. Once you locate her, you can attempt to convince her to obtain the Runepowder Vial, or you can decide to attack her to take it by force.
If you fail to convince her, you will end up fighting her.
BG3 Philomeen Stats
Philomeen General Information
Race: Deep Gnome
Health: 22
AC: 11
Base speed: 7.5m
Size: Small
Weight: 35kg
Attitude: 0
Philomeen stats
Strength: 10
Dexterity: 12
Constitution: 12
Intelligence: 18
Wisdom: 14
Charisma: 12
Proficiency Bonus: +2
Initiative: +1
Philomeen Passive Features
Resistances
Slashing: Normal
Piercing: Normal
Bludgeoning: Normal
Fire: Normal
Lightning: Normal
Psychic: Normal
Poison: Normal
Philomeen Notable Loot
Philomeen Notes and Tips
- Notes & Tips
AnonymousGotta say, I love this game. Just got to her today in the underdark, second playthough, used invisibility to sneak on her and steal the runepowder barrel, invisibility gets canceled, triggers the cutscene where she threatens to go BOOM! but... wait, there's nothing there :D Just got a huge smile in my face, tiny details like this make this game amazing. The fact that the devs thought about it and made a slightly different cutscene in case the player tried this. Respect.

AnonymousI just 1 shot her with my 1rogue5ranger female Astarion with surprise ranged attack, got both the vial and the barrel.

AnonymousSo if you're a cleric of Talos, you have an option to tell her "Go ahead. Do it. I could use a good show." I REALLY wanted to say it, but I'm on honour mode and I know from previous experience that she is crazy enough to do it with certain responses.

AnonymousLast time I tried to put her to sleep (on honor mode) she exploded. Not sure how common that is or whether it's a new patch.

AnonymousDuring the conversation, steal both the bottle and the keg with another character. Then come back to the conversation and he will understand what you did. Attack non-lethally in combat, he is now unconscious. The items are yours, +75 ex and my conscience is clear. Satisfying :)

AnonymousI'm glad LGBT characters like her exist, but damn, she really did just ditch her gf like nothing.

AnonymousJust use Sleep on her from a 2nd character while in dialogue and you can take everything. If you time it right and do it before the last dialogue but after her script checks if the items are there she will leave without even realizing you took it. I have no idea if this has any consequences later in the story though. Maybe her knowing you took it makes it more difficult for her to do terrorist stuff?

Two arrows to the chest, one to the head. We don't negotiate with terrorists.

AnonymousI went to where she was on the map but she is not here. It could be because I already freed Nere.

AnonymousShe wasn't paying attention to the rune barrel when I entered the room.
Sneaked over to it, jumped over it, pickpocketed her for the vial, stole the barrel, cutscene starts bypassing most of the convo.
By the end she complains she only has vial left, whoops it's gone haha.
Calls me a rat and bails
The bookshelves contain spell scrolls and they're quite nice, don't forget to loot them :)

Anonymousfor me it's not just important to get the right "outcome"
Without the character knowing what he's doing...sounds bit of mad.
So I have the conversation where she is handing out the vial.
And because of her crazy story about "making a point" I also take the barrel without her knowledge. (stealing it after she picked it up)
My intention is to help the Gnomes. But rad ass crazies like Philomeen are are good reason why Gnomes should get extinct. They can live in their fancy fey world but obviously not in the real one.
AnonymousThe best thing to do if you don't want to kill her is just start a conversation with her and stop her blowing up the powder, then get someone else to Misty Step behind her and take it while in stealth. Then she'll offer the vial which you can accept and she'll leave without acknowledging that you took the barrel.

AnonymousYou got a few options here.
1. Convince her to give you either barrel or vial, she won't be mad
2. Hide and take the barrel, she won't be mad
3. Hide and pickpocket the vial, she won't be mad
4. Hide and pickpocket the vial then take the barrel, she will be mad but disappear anyway.
5. Hide and take the barrel. Before the conversation end, switch to another character to pickpocket her. End the conversation. She will be gone without being mad and you got both items.
The DC to get the Runepowder Barrel is DC30 and the DC for the Runepowder Vial is 15. You either need to critical, or have at least +11 to modifiers to steal the barrel off her if you decide not to fight her for it.

AnonymousAnother way to get both the barrel and vial
She got the better of me once and wiped my party. On the redo I took the option to get the vial and as she was running past me, I entered turn based mode (gotta be quick) killed her, took the barrel off her corpse and then raised her as a zombie to join my ranks of undead.
You could also pickpocket it off her in turn based mode but the DC is 19
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AnonymousSo i Have not freed Nere yet and came to her Hiding Place but she was not there.. ?

AnonymousI already killed Nere (has some powder on me) befor finding Philomeen hide and she was not in there. But now i realise that when i liberated Nere he blasted a famale gnome into the lava, i think that could have been her...

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Anonymousthat CHEEKY SMILE you get after you stole both the vial and barrel. WORTH IT!

AnonymousWHERE DID any of the deep gnomes go in baldurs gate , I cant find any in act 3?!

AnonymousSomehow I have a bad feeling about her leaving with the barrel.
Oppressed people wanting to prove a point by delivering a barrel of highly explosive powered into a City? The immediate thought I have is Anders in Dragon Age 2.
AnonymousIf you want both the vial and barrel:
Put on your Sleight of Hand bonus gear if you need a boost. Sneak up as far on her left as you possibly can while observing her cone of vision. Quicksave when you get near (incase something goes wrong) and then use an invisibility potion or the Shadow of Menzoberranzan if you have it. Run behind her quickly and C to sneak and then left click her to pickpocket and steal the vial (should be an easy roll). Exit out of her inventory once you have the vial then right click and steal the barrel.
If you go for the barrel first she WILL pull you out of stealth or invisibility - so pickpocket the vial first!
Anonymoussneak on her left and simply move the barrel, you wont have to do the check this way but it does make the vial impossible unless you kill her on the way out

AnonymousYou can go invis, take both the vial and barrel, choose to let her go for free, and she will run off without -45 attitude. In case she shows up later.

Anonymousyou can accpt her offer, then when she start running away with the barrel you enter turn based mode and kill her, no boom boom easy 2500gold

Anonymousyou can also bring smokepowder stolen from the goblin encampment

Anonymous@ taking the whole barrrel - It seems that when you take the barrel and use it (hmm on a dragon patrol for example) you will have nothing to clear the "cave in" :(

AnonymousAs alternative, you can go invisible, steal the whole Runepowder Barrel and there is no boom boom :)


Never knew she could steal the barrel back, even after sending it to camp! How is that possible? More BS from this game, when enemies can do impossible to things, while your own party fails and fails again. Still, seeing her actually alive with the other Ironhand Gnomes in Act 3, that made me smile. You can resteal the barrel but it's a DC 28.
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