Spirit Ashes | Elden Ring Wiki

Crazy how these guys get hated for being “overpowered” and using any of them makes you a bad person.
But any other similarly overpowered strategy like; spellcasting, greatshields, even summoning online. Is all completely fine.

Almost makes you think these people are making completely arbitrary lines in the sand with no actual thought or reasoning behind them…

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I really wished that these worked like that DSIII pokemon mod, as it stand these just exist to split aggro and nothing more

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I think people memed themselves into thinking the point of these games is the difficulty. You were clearly meant to use summons, the game showers you with different ashes in practically every dungeon, and the fights are clearly balanced around it. If you go back to dark souls 1, you might be surprised to learn most main game bosses are absolute pushovers and that even Artorias is only around the level of Margit (if you're not overleveled for him, that is). Some ER bosses even use spirit ashes against you themselves, like Renalla and O'Neil. Not using ashes is basically the same thing as doing a soft challenge run.
I didn't actually use ashes first playthrough btw so i'm allowed to talk about this objectively. Nothing wrong with challenging yourself, but if you think it makes you better than other people or that they are playing the game wrong you are a loser.

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one downside to summons is that if you walk into the arena and immediately summon, you lose your initiative. for example, the magma lizard that guards moonveil, he starts lying down. if you summon, he'll be up and ready by the time you get to it to attack, but if you wait to summon, you can get your initial attack.

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I imagine it's really disheartening as a developer to put your heart and soul into a mechanic only for people to shame anyone who uses it because it's "cheating," despite it being part of the games design

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If you didn't use these you didn't beat the game. Casul.

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As someone who prefers to solo bosses and goof off throughout levels, I never end up engaging with this mechanic and wish you could use them while going through a legacy dungeon. They really got everyone hyped for this flagship mechanic then said you can only actually use it during boss fights and in those stupid little pointless enemy camps.

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Strength buolds are a bit different because you have hyperarmour and you can trade. Dexterity builds or magic builds you sort of need spirit summons to give yourself a long enough window to get in burst damage, as most of these weapons don't have any hyperarmour and the ashes of wars tend to have longer animations.

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I'm 73 and still love gaming - yeah, go figure. I love the open world and all the exploration, and it's a beautiful game. I no longer have my quake 3 reflexes and hand/eye coordination, hence the use of summons to help with all the seemingly impossible bosses. Down vote all you want, I could care less. I play how it's fun for me.

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I’m currently halfway run on NG+3 where my goal is to get bosses down with spirits only, me buffing and healing and allowed to yse craftables. One of the most fun and hilarous times! Some ashes are so bad it feels impossible.. and it is. But I recommend trying, makes fights feel so different.

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i think the game is more fun if you use summons. Strength builds have access to a lot of hyperarmour weapons so you can get away with being careless because you can still inflict damage via trades. Dex/Fth/Int builds mostly don't have access to hyperarmour weapons so using spirits to get in damage is waaaay more fun than painstakingly, perfectly dodging a 20 hit combo from a boss just to get ONE single attack in.

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These should never have existed and they should never return, and you skilless scrubs downvoting this comment are the reason why

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if you DIDNT use these, you didn't beat the game. (duality of man)

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The fact that you can braindead lions claw a boss 4 times and then they're dead makes these completely useless. Just do co-op if you're afraid to fight something alone, they should have just added more npc summons instead.

However, Seamless invasions have made me forgive the addition of this casualized mechanic because now I can aura farm with my army of wandering nobles.

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I'm a disabled, retired veteran with arthritic hands and TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury) and too old to be playing video games. Nevertheless, I've been playing Elden Ring - since it's release to PS - albeit slowly. My hands move slowly on the controller and my brain is slow to make those split-second decisions. I use spirit summons for almost every boss fight. Not *ALL* of them, just most of them. I could not have completed the base game nor DLC without them. My favs: Greatshield Soldier, Horned Warrior, Banished Knight Oleg, Black knight Commander Andreas (for the Furnace Golems), Latenna, Kristoff, and Taylew. I do no longer use the Mimic nor Tiche, but I LOVED them both back in the day.
IMO - if you like Spirit Summons, use them! I pretend they are an old Army buddy come to help me out. And after each use, hopefully before they vanish, I bow in thanks. For me, they add another layer of story. They're fun!
Just my Pooh Sense. TY for reading :)

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tiche is the best one in the game, mimic is overrated and does not do much untill you spend 8 ghost gloveworts. then again getting mimic is quite easy

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I think they trivialize the game too much. On the other hand, some of the bosses (especially the duos) feel kinda BS without them. A middle ground would be better for my taste.

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I sometimes feel like a scrub using spirit ashes. Then I get to farum azula and remember the godskin duo is a mandatory boss... anyways ringalingaling

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i like using skeleton summons and seeing if their dinky little spears alongside some mediocre healing can let them defeat gods

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Buys open world exploration and fighting game, presses a button to make A.I. do the boss fighting for them, doesn't learn boss patterns and proper dodging/parrying, either still loses and says ER design is bad and too hard OR somehow feels accomplished if boss fight is won with the help of AI split aggroing the boss.
Yeah, couldn't be me

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Thats actually crazy

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Idea: reverse cheesing the mimic tear bossfight, you make it cloned you when you have your best stuff, then dequip everything and see how you like being cheesed!

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sometimes i bring terrible low level ashes in just for moral support

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I love using Tiche, Yolan and Anna, and the fire knight dude (not Queelign). Tiche is the summon I beat Malenia with. Every dislike on this comment is a maidenless loser who lives in his mom's basement who likes ganking other people in online and who probably thinks they are a gigachad for beating consort radahn by shield poking behind their shield of solitude and adamantine armor from temu.

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You know, I love how many there are despite most being overshadowed and probably will never be used by anyone. Like the nomad, or the fingercreeper, or the warhawk. Yet I like their addition + this is a very good way to add lore to the games enemies and characters

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I'm trying to put together a revenant build from the character in night reign. Who do you think I should use for the big skeleton? The other two are obvious being the page and the mad pumpkin Head. I was thinking of just going with the great shield soldiers since it feels the same role of a rather immobile tank. I also plan on using one of the soldier summons as a fill-in for her passive

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lol I had no idea using spirit ashes was frowned upon til just now reading these comments. I love the internet.

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Some person/team at fromsoftware literally developed 84 F*CKING DIFFERENT Spirit Ashes, some even with unique hidden mechanics (Ogha, Finlay, Deenh, etc), but some dogsh1t lame-a$$ morons think It ruins the game or It is not the "right way", what a bunch of clowns lol

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i sometimes like to cast my mimic with blafemus blade and let him fight the boss while i put down the controller and stroke my shi while i watch the fight . my mimic is called alfredo

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if you didn't use summons then you didn't beat the game because you did not experience the game properly.

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It's a shame that this item encourages low skill play, because new players will choose to rely on Spirit Ashes to do fighting for them instead of actually buildcrafting, or learning enemy parry patterns. It's really a shame because it goes against Miyazaki's intended vision for the game. Really, these items are intended to make Elden Ring a true god gooner game. with them i can finally fulfill my and miyazaki's dream of watching in the corner while two lesbian lovers fight to the death while i cry, beat my meat, and get promptly beheaded. all over the screen mr. hidetaka. all over it. 一陽来復

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Summoning is an under-appreciated art. To those who don’t understand and willfully cast stones, mind your own business. To those of us with curiosity and joy in our hearts, channel the ash. I wish there were more details about the unique interactions that several of the summons have. Like Latenna using enemy wolves as a mount, or the pumpkinhead frenzy mechanic. I guess I’ll have to find all of the cool secrets myself.

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In love with whoever called the putrid corpse a "melee grappler"

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i quite enjoy trying to find a lore/cosplay appropriate spirit ash to use with my builds. Black flame godskin build? Amon it is, Poison/Rot character? rotten strays or the centipede dudes, Quality commanding officer type? Go my battalion of soldiers.

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Still waiting for the Bats & Land Octopus spirit ashes ...

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sporit ases

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for anyone crying that using spirit ashes invalidates your wins, i feel the same way about anyone who leveled up any attribute, wore any armor, equipped any weapon, or used a spell, incantation or flask. git gud scrubs, lvl 1 naked unarmed no death no heal no dodge no jump no torrent runs are the only ones that count.

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base game ashes arent listed except in the listing, pls fix

and to anyone talking down on this mechanic:
these are awesome for learning bosses
and if you think having help ( online or offline ) is bad, I assume you never had actual friends

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It's fine to use it, just know you didnt beat anything and cheated ur way to victory and are less skilled. But it's totally fine to use it if you want.

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It's a shame that this item encourages low skill play, because new players will choose to rely on Spirit Ashes to do fighting for them instead of actually buildcrafting, or learning enemy parry patterns. It's really a shame because it goes against Miyazaki's intended vision for the game. Really, these items are intended to make Elden Ring a true god gooner game. with them i can finally fulfill my and miyazaki's dream of watching in the corner while two lesbian lovers fight to the death while i cry, beat my meat, and get promptly beheaded. all over the screen mr. hidetaka. all over it. 一陽来復

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It's a shame that this item encourages low skill play, because new players will choose to rely on Spirit Ashes to do fighting for them instead of actually buildcrafting, or learning enemy parry patterns. It's really a shame because it goes against Miyazaki's intended vision for the game. Really, these items are intended to make Elden Ring a true god gooner game. with them i can finally fulfill my and miyazaki's dream of watching in the corner while two lesbian lovers fight to the death while i cry, beat my meat, and get promptly beheaded. all over the screen mr. hidetaka. all over it. 一陽来復

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Only time I used spirit ashes in my first playthrough was when fighting the Crucible Knight Duo... my completely un-upgraded skeletal militiamen served as an adequete distraction against the one with the spear. The fact that they respawn (just like the skeleton enemies) is really underrated

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About the ways of the Ashina blade... It's our school of fighting, but there are no hard and fast rules. You just win your battles. That alone is the most important rule of the Ashina style.

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what is a good weapon for radahn

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Why aren't the upgrade materials listed in the individual entries? It would be nice also if they were separated into the two different categories of Standard and Renowned spirits, but that's asking for a lot. This might be the most valuable piece of information though, and it's missing.

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lower my boy page's fp cost cmon

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the pokemon master trainer build is real

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Huw may be not S+++ ashes summon, but I love his fighting style and his wings are pretty

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Where do I get the mimic

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you didn't beat your meat if you used spirit ashes.

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Really wish editors would stop suggesting Tiche for DLC bosses. She gets absolutely RAGDOLLED by some of the more aggressive, hard hitting ones like Gaius or Scadu Avatar, not to mention her standard attacks do pathetic damage (even in the base game) and destined death is nerfed while in the shadow realm. I tried her vs PCR one time and she got demolished long before phase 2 even triggered and had similar results with Gaius. Bosses like Messmer, Rellana, and Romina are highly mobile so she straight up misses most of her normal attacks and whiffs nearly all of her death blades in addition to their attacks knocking her down frequently. She's not the uber-tier summon she used to be.

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Imagine finishing the game higher than SL 120 AND using summons.

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Perfumer Tricia and Stormhawk too ah - they're both perfect if you're a paladin. You protect them and they buff you constantly. Deadly combo

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Perfumer Tricia and Stormhawk too ah - they're both perfect if you're a paladin. You protect them and they buff you constantly. Deadly combo

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Perfumer Tricia and Stormhawk too ah - they're both perfect if you're a paladin. You protect them and they buff you constantly. Deadly combo

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Perfumer Tricia and Stormhawk too ah - they're both perfect if you're a paladin. You protect them and they buff you constantly. Deadly combo

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Perfumer Tricia and Stormhawk too ah - they're both perfect if you're a paladin. You protect them and they buff you constantly. Deadly combo

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Perfumer Tricia and Stormhawk too ah - they're both perfect if you're a paladin. You protect them and they buff you constantly. Deadly combo

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Perfumer Tricia and Stormhawk too ah - they're both perfect if you're a paladin. You protect them and they buff you constantly. Deadly combo

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Perfumer Tricia and Stormhawk too ah - they're both perfect if you're a paladin. You protect them and they buff you constantly. Deadly combo

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How it started: oh hey this guy from stormveil!he's gotta be good
How it's going: my boyfriend is gonna kick your ass >:3
How it might end: promised consort oleg, brought back to life by tarnished

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Jellyfish poison buildup goes BRRRRRR

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I'm not saying using spirit ashes all the time is bad, which it isn't, but if you wanna become more skilled at the game, I recommend trying the boss without ashes first, and if after a few attempts you aren't making progress, then you summon a spirit ash

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When I finish base game + dlc, I'll be going in ng+ and let my summons fight bosses (up until like fire giant). You might call this the Sukuna playthrough - or Jump Ring

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so many fine shyt sexy girl ashes....

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Am i the only one that thinks legendary spirits don't really live up to the hype, besides their flavor text reputation?
not just their in-game effectiveness, most are also kinda lacking in terms of visual wow-factor imo.
I've always wanted a Runebear spirit, though it would be hilariously overkill in terms of dps, stagger & stance-damage.. maybe balance it by toning down its normally super aggro behavior.

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Spirit Ashes are a great addition but there are too many. There should be less to make their individual function more unique. Maybe no more than 40

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is it legal for tarnished to have sex with spirit ashes? or is this frowned upon in the lands between

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YOU hate spirit summons because they turn bosses into punching bags
WHILE I hate spirit summons because i cant get alexander ashes

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lmao at the people still complaining that using ashes means you didn't beat the game meanwhile the normies their comments are directed at moved onto another game 2 years ago

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To those who use them by default: you didn't cheat the game, but you cheated yourself. Nothing was risked, nothing was gained and the hollow victory you've achieved is a far cry from what could've been if you trusted yourself more. Don't just skim through the game as if you're consuming a product. There is no rush, you don't have to finish it in a week. Games like Elden Ring are rare, so take your time. Dive into it fully and experience all it has to offer. Explore different options, weapons and styles, and only then call for help. You'll see the difference.

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Controversial paradoxical system. I've played all Souls games before, offline(no PS+), rarely used npc summons at first, none later. So Spirit Ashes were ambiguous for me. But since my controller is broken and sabotages me, I had to use summons, and oh it makes some fights to become Pacifist tun.
Spirits Ashes should COST status parameters (a % of the player stats like HP, SP, AP, all attack and defense, less Souls/Runes as reward) and make the enemy more aggressive to the player. That way the difficulty would be more balanced.

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Just found out about spirit ashes and I won't lie- I'm not all too enamoured with them. They feel like an unnecessary addition, as I felt the standard 'summon outside of a boss gate' is a simpler system that is much easier to balance... this works too, and does what it does well enough, but I felt it was a tad unnecessary when a similar system already existed. I suppose it does help to relieve an unreasonably hard boss? Don't mistake this as me hating the system, just feeling it was redundant or unnecessary. At most I would venture to say that I would have preferred dev time be spent on other things within the game, but that's something everyone can say for almost anything, so I recognize that it is a subjective argument with similarly subjective value. I don't hate spirit ashes, but I don't care for them either.

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want rune bear sad :(

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Ornis below Inquisitor and Tricia???

This is the worst noob list I've ever seen.

Ornis is at least S and Inquistors is a C tier since they dont even survive Margit or Godrick's first phases.

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Black Flame Monk Amon is goated if you're doing a summon only run where you're the healer/support and you don't want to "cheese" with bleed mimic. Most of his attacks have life drain, which means the boss loses 2% Hp minimum. Great for bosses like Mohg and Fire Giant.

He can beat Mohg as long as you hug Mohg to keep agro and dodge his attacks while casting great heals between combos. Make sure to use Golden vow and Protection of the erdtree every 90 seconds to greatly decrease Mohgs fire damage. Blessings boon for bonus life regen.

A tier summon without buffing, S tier when buffed up.

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didn't use them outside of gank bosses but in a future playthrough i wanna jump every bosses with my own gank squad for the fun of it.

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Which summon besides mimic tear can realistically beat Radagon and Elden Beast on support build?

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Let's balance the game around the player utilizing the most brain dead AI since Halo 1 marines. Half the time they will just stand there and do nothing, or walk endlessly into a random wall.

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No Minor Erdtree Tree Spirit Guardian Spear Ashes. I am deleting this game.

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:3

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devastated that this page doesn't allow categorization of "special ashes" like roderika's menus do. I got no grave gloveworts but I got a full stack of ghost gloveworts & no "special ashes" to use them on. Si i was gonna come here & find one that i like, but the spirit ashes here are jumbled up so i'd have to click each to see which ones require which resource. that ssucks.

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Should've made it so Carmaan used something with the effects of the Crimson Bubble Tear.

"While Carmaan never achieved self-revification, his ample knowledge of its studies and the like let him discover a way to concoct potions that mimic the powers that of minor erdtree bounties. Will take advantage of automatic healing flasks in order to save himself from near-death situations without pausing to recover."

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Would you guys have liked if some of the npcs quests rewards were their spirit ashes too? Like Blaidd, Alexander, Millicent, Melina? I'd enjoy it just because at the endgame I kinda feel lonely without their company.

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This list is a pretty accurate representation of what boys’ friend groups look like.

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Soldier ashes (base game)

The Godrick Gang

The Cool Cuckoos

The Raging Radahn Rankers

The guys who have a poster of the Raging Radahn Rankers in their room (Leyndell soldiers)

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I'm not saying you didn't beat the game. I'm saying you are a worse person and if people find out about you using summons they will stop being friends with yoy

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People who don’t like spirit ashes, what do you think of the gold summon signs that summon NPCs?

PS: keep it civil pls

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is it okay to use summons? I want to use them but I don't want to be considered a cheater

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The Radahn Soldiers are legit beasts. Aside from their health pool they pummel whatever you put them up against with no issues whatsoever. If you want something for "squad missions" though, (e.g. traversing zamor ruins mostly in stealth) the Leyndell soldiers have better survivability at the cost of offensive capability.

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As someone who hasn't used Spirit Ashes since their initial playthrough, mfs really gotta stop acting like taking longer to beat a boss at the net reward of absolutely nothing makes them better at the game. It just doesn't make sense. There's no difficulty setting, style meter or special item you get. Spirit Ash users are factually better at the game than you and me because they're actually engaging with the most powerful mechanic. And if that somehow wounds your ego, you need to rethink how you got to a point where it's based on your performance in Miyazaki's Poison Swamp Simulator 5.

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i say this as someone who beat every remberance boss on ng+. USE SPIRIT ASHES IF YOU WISH!! Seriously, why are people acting like this isn't a ROLE PLAYING GAME, do what you want. If your build involves spirits, then summon, if you want to do it solo, then do it solo. Trying to say someone shoudln't enjoy the game because they don't enjoy the game the way you do, is dumb!! Let people play a game and stop bothering them over their prefered way to play it. So i say, thank you spirit ashes, for allowing more people to play the game.

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I like summons. With them, I can do my slow attacks and my use my cinematic skills and spells. I feel good. I have fun.

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I heard in a short there is a rya snake Spirit is that Fake ? I dont want to kill her there is only the dedicare Thing

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Why did some people say that this game needs easy mode when spirit ashes exist?

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Crystalian B- ?

Dude is literally S+ on anything that doesn't use strike damage

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I like how some of the ashes' behavior displays who they were before they passed. Whenever you're fighting a group Oleg will stop fighting his current opponent if you get hit by someone and start wailing on that person instead. Essentially, he's just trying to keep you alive, and is the opposite of red-eyed summons like Ogha.

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No skill required

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every dlc spirit on this page has the wrong fp cost as of right now, look at the individual pages for them instead

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Summons are an optional easy mode. Which is not a bad thing, but a lot of people in the community will get salty over this statement, apparently because it downplays their sense of achievement and pride in beating this "super hard" game. Yes, it's definitely the toughest experience in all fromsoft series on par with Sekiro, but only if you play solo. On my 1st playthrough I was struggling real hard with Malenia, so I decided to use Mimic Tear and rivers of cheese, defeated her instantly, and it felt like I just cheated. There was little to no skill involved, just luck and L2 mashing, no "getting gud" feeling, I regretted it. To this day I wonder how can some people be happy and proud about beating the game like that? If we consider summons to be base game mechanic that everyone should use unless they want to make the game artificially more difficult, then it's really sad

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